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I have never let my schooling interfere with my education. -- Mark Twain

Friday, May 27, 2005

A few more choice quotes


    Following on yesterday's post, I wanted to share some more observations from the leading educators who shaped our current school system. I also want to add that I am not saying teachers and principals in today's schools have this sort of oppressive view of schooling; they clearly do not. But they operate in an institution set up by men who said things like this:

    The great purpose of school can be realized better in dark, airless, ugly places.... It is to master the physical self, to transcend the beauty of nature. School should develop the power to withdraw from the external world.

    That was said by William Torrey Harris, US Commissioner of Education from 1889 to 1906, in his 1906 book The Philosophy of Education. Harris admired the Prussians, and German philosophers such as Kant and Hegel, and was quite the trendy fascist. He also wrote, for instance:

    Ninety-nine [students] out of a hundred are automata, careful to walk in prescribed paths, careful to follow the prescribed custom. This is not an accident but the result of substantial education, which, scientifically defined, is the subsumption of the individual.

    And this:

    Our schools have been scientifically designed to prevent over-education from happening. The average American [should be] content with their humble role in life, because they're not tempted to think about any other role.

    On this excellent page of education quotes, you can find John Dewey quoted as follows:

    Every teacher should realize he is a social servant set apart for the maintenance of the proper social order and the securing of the right social growth.

    . . .

    The children who know how to think for themselves spoil the harmony of the collective society which is coming, where everyone would be interdependent.

    Many of these beliefs about education sound rather communist. Karl Marx also wanted the State to rear children, first in nurseries and then in schools. The Communist Party would talk about molding children like wax into "real, good Communists," just as John D. Rockefeller said, on the subject of American public education: "In our dreams, people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hands."

    I suppose you could sum up the early 20th century in the industrialized world as a period of the centralization of power and wealth, and a belief on the part of the robber barons that a gross inequality between elites and "the masses" could be maintained through scientific management, without fear of revolution. An enormous pillar of such management of the populace has been the public school system, which has gone on in its heavily centralized, overly managed, overly administrated form, ever since the days of eugenics and behaviorism. Every round of reform just seems to add one more hassle for teachers to deal with-- suddenly math or reading has to be taught in a totally new way, or there is yet another topic which must be addressed, yet another "competency" for children to attain, yet another test to be prepared for. No Child Left Behind is straight out of the 1920s, and that's about the worst insult I can give.

    It came as a shock to me, after my eyes were opened by John Gatto, that there have been people all along who understood what compulsory mass schooling was really about. First of all, parents didn't yield their children willingly. Even Ellwood Cubberley, one of the key founders of our school system, admitted as much in his Public Education in the United States, as quoted by Gatto:

    The history of compulsory-attendance legislation in the states has been much the same everywhere, and everywhere laws have been enacted only after overcoming strenuous opposition.

    . . .

    At first the laws were optional...later the law was made state-wide but the compulsory period was short (ten to twelve weeks) and the age limits low, nine to twelve years. After this, struggle came to extend the time, often little by little...to extend the age limits downward to eight and seven and upwards to fourteen, fifteen or sixteen; to make the law apply to children attending private and parochial schools, and to require cooperation from such schools for the proper handling of cases; to institute state supervision of local enforcement....

    Doesn't exactly sound like parents were grateful to the state, and couldn't wait to send their kids to school. Sounds like 13 years of compulsory schooling was fought for tooth and nail by those in power.

    Secondly, there were notable social commentators who pointed out the nature of the public schools, though somehow I failed to come across these until recently. H L Mencken had this to say:

    That erroneous assumption is to the effect that the aim of public education is to fill the young of the species with knowledge and awaken their intelligence, and so make them fit to discharge the duties of citizenship in an enlightened and independent manner. Nothing could be further from the truth. The aim of public education is not to spread enlightenment at all, it is simply to reduce as many individuals as possible to the same safe level, to breed and train a standardized citizenry, to put down dissent and originality. That is its aim in the United States, whatever the pretensions of politicians, pedagogues and other such mountebanks, and that is its aim everywhere else.

    Benjamin Disraeli noted (somewhat earlier, in 1874):

    Wherever is found what is called a paternal government, there is found state education. It has been discovered that the best way to insure implicit obedience is to commence tyranny in the nursery.

    There has to be a better way.

    3 Comments:

    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    after wandering over here from dkos and reading your blog, i finally have started reading gatto's book. i'm up to chapter 5 and i feel like i need to be fitted for a new tin-foil hat. heavy duty style.

    if 1/2 of his premise is correct, we're looking at a conspiracy of gigantic proportions. not a conspiracy in the sense that everyone set out to sort of 'let's see how badly we can screw up children's lives', but in the sense of a conspiracy of mediocrity perpetrated by the mediocre.

    i went to elementary school in the 60s. my wife went in the late 70s/early 80s. here i've been thinking: 'well, i guess mine was the last generation to get anything like a real education.' she's completely ignorant of so many things i consider basic education requirements. not her fault, mind you, and she's working hard to correct the lack on her own. but in reading gatto, i see that even i didn't get that good an education. if it weren't for my own reading ability and the added education i received at home from my mom & grandparents, i'd probably be as academically ignorant as my wife started out.

    thank you so much for pointing me to this book.

    i do have some questions about gatto's purpose though... he seems overly Libertarian (capital "L"--as in the political party). and i wonder if there have ever been any refutations of his thesis (other than the standard NEA "no we're not!")

    it's so tin-foil-hatty i find it hard to completely believe on one hand, but on the other hand, my cynical side believes it completely.

    i remember that when i was in elementary school & jr high, they were always giving us "experimental" materials. i went to school in chicago, so it seems like i was in one of the centers of educational experimentation. we often had observers in our classes... i think they were usually from Schoolastic. i remember getting a lot of grief from my teachers for being "too smart." when i entered kindergarden, i was made to stand in front of the class & tell them i was lying when i said i already knew how to read. fortunately my mother came in the next day and reamed the teacher a new one and proved that indeed i could read, not only read but at a 4th grade level in kindergarden since i'd been reading since i was about 2 1/2.

    growing up in school felt like a lab rat. i remember taking dozens of "tests", iq & others. lots of hushed conferences between "authorities" and my parents cautioning them of moving me ahead too fast.

    i dropped out as soon as i was old enough. i was bored, angry, and resentful.

    i will never willingly hand over my children to that system. they're only 3 & 1 now, i'm homeschooling them not 'school at home-ing' them. it's very unstructured now. unfortunately i have to put them in the day-care at my wife's school part-time over the summer 'cause i'm having hand surgery and my wife's taking summer classes & working full time. but you better believe i'll be making a lot of unannounced drop-in visits & asking them lots of questions when they get home.

    just a long rambling comment, the point of which is to thank you again for turning me on to gatto.

    May 28, 2005 5:13 PM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    ok back again... and then there's the question of religion. it's the bane of my homeschooling existence. it doesn't help that i have a personal ton of knee-jerk negative reaction to religion especially evangelical christianity. and most homeschoolers, homeschooling sites, & homeschooling resources fall into that category.

    the few times so far gatto's mentioned religion & the educational establishment's ridding school of it... those are the times i've thought: 'well, the schools did something right!' i'm hoping i don't get to the end of his book & find more god in it.

    that bzponline source for some of the quotes turns out to be for a covenent baptist church or related to it somehow... so now i question some of the stuff on its site.

    i sure hope that over the coming years, as the school system becomes more and more dysfunctional, there'll be more secular homeschoolers out there.

    May 28, 2005 5:40 PM  
    Blogger Production Is Wealth said...

    I share your concerns about Gatto. I think he romanticizes the past, he is indeed a favorite of many religious groups, and he seems to think the free market will solve everything (in this case he means privatization of schools). On the other hand, he has a talent at helping people to step outside the box and see schooling differently, for instance in his essay "The Six-Lesson Schoolteacher." And I have to admire him for having the courage to take a harsh look at his own career.

    The problem is that public education is currently a progressive ideal, because people assume (I know I did) that we have public schools for egalitarian purposes, and for the reason Jefferson wanted them: to protect our democracy through insuring an educated populace. It's such a strong assumption that you can hardly find people on the left who are aware of the history of schools as Gatto illustrates it. And even if Gatto were being highly selective, how can you get around some of those quotes? The industrialists did have oppressive purposes for the schools. Rockefeller and Carnegie didn't donate all that money out of sheer philanthropy.

    By the way, I can't believe your story about being made to say you were a liar in kindergarten. My god. The more I talk to people, the more tales I hear of schools trying to "dumb kids down," by punishing them in one way or another for being ahead of the class. Tell the kindergarten story to almost anyone, and they will tell you of some indignity they themselves suffered in school.

    On the subject of Evangelical vs. secular homeschooling, you might try seeking out unschooling resources. Unschoolers are usually secular. The thing is, with unschooling you don't need webpages full of curricula, materials, descriptions of classes that are available, notices about used textbooks for sale, etc. I think the evangelical homeschoolers have a larger web presence simply because there is so much overhead and difficulty with strict, formal school-at-homing. Unschoolers often have family blogs, and those provide encouragement for me.

    May 29, 2005 9:14 AM  

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